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So, I was telling a friend about the PrimeVibe. He wasnt familiar with it or the Tonerite ect. I tell him the gist of what it is supposed to do and that it should make your guitar sweeter and hotter. He says "Oh, Id like to put it under my wifes pillow."... Smile
did I read on the PV site where you could run multiple leads & PV more than 1 item at a time? Wink


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...fasthand - I think that is an aweseome idea, and I wished I'd have tried it while I had the unit. Maybe someone on this thread who's getting the unit will try this. My only concern it that it might inhibit the top from vibrating somewhat. Hopefully someone will see this thread and give it a try, even for just a few minutes to see if the volume can be dampened with inhibiting the top vibrating.

Or you could just try covering the instrument with a "cone of silence" like the dudes on "Get Smart." Smile


That kills me! I haven't heard or thought about those crazy cones for about 40 years!

We have a link about quieting the instrument and I'm too tired to find it, under Product Info. Damp or loosen the strings, plug the hole, move to primeVibe's home state of Utah, dubbed "land of big houses" by wife Debra (AKA "she who cooks").


$99 primeVibe seasons all guitars including solid body and bass, violin, viola, cello, double bass, ukulele, harmonica, even drums! www.prime-Vibe.com

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Okay, thanks for the varnish data point. That makes me a little less concerned, but not quite carefree.



If you're concerned about your varnished top, what about an idea: place a yellow post-it note under the PV modules (minus the sticky part). It should still give the vibrations almost uninhibited, and the modules wouldn't be directly touching the top. You may be able to think of something else, but sticky-note is what I came up with.


I have no dog in this proverbial debate...but a customer at the Martin forum with whom I've become friends expressed his sentiment that paper vibrated by the exciters could/would act as a sanding device on the finish. Even fairly fine paper has a surface that might be harmful. Julian Fordham, PhD. in Materials Science, selected primeVibe's high grade silicone rubber contact surface under the transducers and their outer wire jacket. I'm sure all primeVibe owners will confirm the material in question looks and feels completely different vs. the dreaded surgical tubing lining instrument stands. Our color is super black high-gloss and feels to be multiples higher in density.


$99 primeVibe seasons all guitars including solid body and bass, violin, viola, cello, double bass, ukulele, harmonica, even drums! www.prime-Vibe.com

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Debra Romeyn, Manager
 
Posts: 30 | Location: Cache Valley, Utah, USA | Registered: October 14, 2010Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Originally posted by dehanson1:
So, I was telling a friend about the PrimeVibe. He wasnt familiar with it or the Tonerite ect. I tell him the gist of what it is supposed to do and that it should make your guitar sweeter and hotter. He says "Oh, Id like to put it under my wifes pillow."... Smile
did I read on the PV site where you could run multiple leads & PV more than 1 item at a time? Wink


Yes, indeed you did! See link under "product info". A $2 audio splitter will allow one source to drive 3 to 4 primeVibe amps (depends on the source). If you really want to go crazy, or for luthiers (i.e. season up to hundreds of instruments simultaneously...bring ear plugs please) call me for affordable options. I'm thinking the smallest string instruments such as violin, ukulele, might season at a reasonable rate with one transducer per instrument, but no direct experience.

The first option is a $49 line amplifier to convert one music source into 4 outputs each driving 3-4 primeVibe amps. So this line amp should allow one music source to drive 12-16 primeVibe amps/seasoning stations.


$99 primeVibe seasons all guitars including solid body and bass, violin, viola, cello, double bass, ukulele, harmonica, even drums! www.prime-Vibe.com

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Debra Romeyn, Manager
 
Posts: 30 | Location: Cache Valley, Utah, USA | Registered: October 14, 2010Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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It has been about a week or more since our first testers tried this out.

How about a followup as to whether the guitar has lost a little ala TR?

I love my TR but would consider having this unit also if the effects were more permanent.

(I do like how I can run the TR in the background of my project studio without really noticing it until I swap guitars and put a new one one......certainly not silent but close enough).
 
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How about a followup as to whether the guitar has lost a little ala TR?


It took much longer than a week to notice that the effects of my TR treatment had worn down. Human aural memory is terrible - we forget what we hear rather quickly - so it would be tough to keep track, especially if you play it often where you'd be continually be adjusting to any subtle daily changes. I noticed primarily because it was a guitar I played rarely, and I'd made recordings of it, so there was a gauge to reference. But that's the TR - I can't speak about the PV.
 
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dehanson1,

I'm sure you know this, but I can PM you a list of much better ways to achieve the same goal. No batteries required. Cool


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torn between the pv and tr? no worries!

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I'm curious about the purported diminution of the effects of either "good vibrations" device. If the treatment works, e.g. "matures" the guitar by vibrating it a whole lot more than you would in a whole lot shorter time... how could that phenomenon go away, assuming you keep playing the guitar. I did. I notice zero change for the worse in either guitar. someone brighter than I am- that would be most of you- tell me how that's possible. If the wood has become more flexible, supple or whatever adjective you choose, how would that depart unless you put the guitar in its case, shoved it under the bed, and left it there for weeks or months on end? thanks tom
 
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Tom, I haven't noticed any diminution in the PV outcome. In fact,my Huss and Dalton sounds much better today than it did right after its 24 hour PV session. I had written before that I was concerned that the PV effects, while quite noticeable, might ultimately have changed the tone slightly for the worse for my ears (despite the major increase in sustain and much more light, airy sound); this has definitely not proven to be the case. In fact, it has settled into the same woody, dry and slightly twangy tone that I loved before, it's just got much more sustain now and the tone is more airy and full. It also just feels more alive.

My Merill didn't respond quite as noticeably, but there is definitely an increase in sustain and the tone is also more airy.

All in all, I'd say the PV was quite a success, and both guitars were only treated for 24 hours (each). I never got around to treating my D2HA Mad Rose Varnish (it doesn't need a lot of help, but it would be interesting to see how it would respond).
 
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So, yesterday I got the traveling PV. It is on my OM3 and singing away. I haven't kept up with every comment on this long thread so this may be redundant - This Sucker Is Loud! It's in the next room and I can clearly hear John and Paul's harmonies on Mr. Moonlight as the iPod shuffles through 80 gigs of music from Muddy Waters to Leon Russell to the Theme from Twin Peaks. I think it'll have to be off while we sleep but that gives it a good 16 hours a day in a closed, humidified 12 x 13 guitar room.

Which brings me to part 2. Today I received a second unit. Am I to send the 2nd one off or use on another guitar (happy to)? I seem to remember a post about units crossing paths. Advice please. Of course, I will PM James.


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Hi Randy, sorry about you getting the second unit. Please return home to me and I'll reimburse you for shipping on that one. Debra and I are encouraged by the continued success in this thread.


$99 primeVibe seasons all guitars including solid body and bass, violin, viola, cello, double bass, ukulele, harmonica, even drums! www.prime-Vibe.com

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