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Originally posted by Tom F.:
CC, the score to Beethoven's 9th as...trivia Scandalous.

Freude, schöner Götterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium....

This is arguably the most sublime piece of music written by mankind. And Schiller's lyrics, images of Clockwork Orange....Elysium indeed.

On the 9th being the most sublime piece of music ever penned, I will second (and third, fourth, etc.) that notion ... heartily. Anyone capable of hearing / seeing this piece performed live without being shaken to their proverbial boots has my deepest sympathy.

+1 CC, oh +1 indeed. And wasn't Beethoven deaf at the time he wrote it (or was that when it was first performed?)! Some achievements are beyond classification.

BTW, Kubrick's use of music in Clockwork Orange was masterful; perhaps even better than 2001, but it's close.

Poetic, actually, to have the Beatles and Beethoven displayed in tandem. Eleanor Rigby and Fur Elise. I tried to find tab I can read on that latter piece. Our daughter, when she was eight, could make you weep with that piece. She memorized Fur Elise about the second time through, and then practiced while reading a book. True story. We'd be in the other room, with this angelic music pouring out, and didn't discover for days Jenny was playing it while reading, I dunno, Narnia or somesuch at the same time. Jenny got the brains in the family; at least I know where mine are now. Music, the great unifier. Except for Wagner. Ooops. The Ninth is indeed from another plane, and it ain't an airplane, either.

I'm not sure if it's the greatest piece of music ever written by the hand of man, but it's certainly in the top five, with added points given for the restricting conditions under which the piece was written.

Someone mentioned Clockwork Orange -- Wendy (Walter) Carlos's reworking of the 9th for that movie (and all the other cues from it) was yet another "great step for mankind" (or womankind, or whatever form she assumed at that point in time).

wow, for a veritable website sausage fest, we sure have a high sensitivity quotient. I was just watching the end of Zeferelli's Romeo and Juliet and the monitor's still blurry. I'm a sucker for that stuff. Part of why I play guitar, without a doubt. Perhaps we could have threads established for the greatest, and worst, music ever made. Yin, yang, as 'twere. I'll start the second category: My Boy Lollipop. Oh. My. Gawd. I still know the lyrics. Stat!

I believe it was Walter on his Moog with Deutsche Garmmophon recordings interspersed. Very excellent.

S'man, I had mentioned in the past that I went to school in Italy....well, it was 10km from Gubbio where most of R+J was shot, and since I've been burning a votive candle to Olivia Hussey these many years, all those bylanes and squares from the movie are old friends to me.

My oldest kid just finished his Freshman year in high school. They read R&J during the year and he was extremely into it. We then had him watch the movie and I am pleased to report that Ms. Hussey's appeal extends well into Generation X (or Y or Z is it now?)

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Originally posted by Tom F.:
BTW, Kubrick's use of music in Clockwork Orange was masterful; perhaps even better than 2001, but it's close.

2001 uses pre-existing classical music whereas Clockwork Orange was scored by Wendy Carlos. Both are great examples of amazing use of music in film - two of the best - and while nobody does film music better than Kubrick, Carlos has to get the credit for Clockwork Orange. I personally prefer the music in CO to 2001, but, as you said, it's close.

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Originally posted by collingscowboy:
I believe it was Walter on his Moog with Deutsche Garmmophon recordings interspersed. Very excellent.

IMDb does credit "Wendy Carlos (as Walter Carlos)" so it seem that she was still a he that year. It was certainly Moog-heavy. The first time some people ever heard one, and at a time when they were as expensive as a few automobiles. I've tried to emulate some of those pieces with my Moog (no longer as expensive as an automobile) and I can't. Those were experimental days with lots of multi-tracking.

cowboy, the aforementioned Jenny spent her junior year in Fiorenze, and speaks six or seven languages. I lost count. And, Sir Wilkins, if a freshman lad doesn't cotton to Olivia... I'm telling ya, one for the ages. The last fight I amost got into in my life was at NCS Wahiawa where the Navy base theater was playing the Zefferilli film. My friends and I were seeing it for the first time, and some Marines in the row in front of us were snickering and playing grab ass during the final scenes. We told them to shut (add ornamentation here) or they'd wind up like Tybalt. Real men aren't moved by sentiment, you know. They shut up. One for the USN. We've not seen Shakespeare's like in the several centuries since. He woulda played a Collings lute had one been available, I've no doubt of that. tom