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Do any of you have experience with Edwards' books and instructional method; if so, what is your opinion of the approach (usefulness, applicablity to various playing styles, etc.)? .
Thanks, Rick |
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Have the book, haven't busted the seal on the DVD yet... Peek at the book first. If it makes sense to you and gets your brain clicking, then add the DVD. I've applied some of the stuff from the book, and I'm planning to work through the DVD beginning in the next couple weeks. Also saw an interesting video from TrueFire.com on the CAGED system (Add "Guitar Sherpa" to your Tivo Downloads list and you get a couple free lessons every month or so...)
I've found there are several approaches to theory, and it never hurts to hear it from several angles... there always seems to be one way that makes it stick, or ties the things I'd heard before together... Barnes and Noble used to carry the book, might wander through and peek at it for a few minutes... There's enough rambling. |
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Thanks, Dave. I actually have an earlier edition of the book (no CDs or DVDs)which I picked up some years ago after hearing some good things about the approach and I guess with hopes of gaining that elusive grasp of the fingerboard through a logical overview rather than the more piecemeal approach that has characterized my many years of undisciplined playing (without commensurate mastery, I hastily add. Anyway it sat on the shelf unexplored until recently. So before devoting a great deal of effort, I thought I'd check to see what others have thought of it. From the minimal response, the answer seems to be not much. Anybody else used this approach? Anyway, thanks, Dave, also for telling me about trufire.com, there really are so many resources around these days, it's hard to cull out the best. Any other input welcome.
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the most helpful lessons (video tape back in the day, CD now) are: Russ Barenberg, Exploring the Fingerboard; Pete Huttlinger, either the "practice" lesson or the chord encyclopedia; and Joe Pass, now out of print it seems but available on line in little pieces. I'm no theoretician by any stretch of the imagination, but these things collectively give me a clue when things get improvisational on stage. tom
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Thanks, Tom, I was hoping you'd weigh in on this.
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Tom, are you referring to a particular JP book or all of them?
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The Pass lesson I'm thinking of came out mid eighties, and was the one that directly preceded "Blue Side of Jazz", which is cool, too. but the first one got me out of flogging six string first position folkie chords (not that those don't have their place, 'cause they sure do). If I remember the name, I'll post it. tom
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RicMic, I am actually pleased with the Fret Board Logic Series. I have completed volumes I & II and will hopefully start vol III shortly. I do not have the DVD. For me it really shines with using the pentatonic and diatonic scales as they relate to the chord form you are going out of or coming into. I think Edward's explains things well, however, it has not been easy for me but required constant work.
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According to the library of congress, Joe Pass produced several books prior to 1990. They include:
1. Joe Pass guitar chords.Sherman Oaks, Calif., Gwyn Pub. Co., 1971 2. Joe Pass guitar chords / by Joe Pass.Englewood, Col. : Camelot-Gwyn Pub. Co., c1985 3. Mel Bay presents Joe Pass guitar chords.Pacific, MO : M. Bay Publications, c1986. 4. Mel Bay presents Joe Pass & Herb Ellis jazz duets. Pacific, MO : Mel Bay Publications, c1986. 5. Mel Bay presents Joe Pass plays the blues / transcribed by Roland Leone. Pacific, Mo. : M. Bay Publications, c1987. 6. Famous jazz guitar solos / as played and recorded by Charlie Christian, Ivor Mairants, West Montgomery, Joe Pass, George Benson, Charlie Bird ; selected, transcribed and fingered by Ivor Mairants.Milwaukee, WI : Hal Leonard Publishing Corp., c1989. Sonoman, are any of these the one for which you were looking? Peace, Rip |
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I like the Fretboard Logic books very much, though I didn't really "get it" until an instructor used the same method.
Equally good, IMHO, is "Flatpicking the Blues" by Brad Davis. It is NOT flatpick specific, nor is it especially blues oriented (at least the theory part is not). It covers much of the same matierial as Fretboard Logic, in a less academic way, and includes a DVD and audio CD. Highly recommended. Bill Miller |
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I have Fretboard Logic, and it did a good job of introducing me to CAGED, but doesn't help much with how to apply it.
Two books that are fairly recent to me, and I have so far been very impressed with, are Guitar Fretboard Workbook and Chord Tone Soloing by Barrett Tagliarino. Both are very methodical, full of useful and manageable exercises, and together are enough material for years of practice. I'm quite happy with them: http://www.amazon.com/Guitar-F...id=1233087963&sr=8-1 http://www.amazon.com/Chord-To...id=1233087963&sr=8-3 |
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i got these when they first came out. i agree he doesn't quite tie all the lose ends together. since then the approach has been found in a number of methods. the best version i've found is in the series "blues you can use". essentially its a way to memorize scales up and down the neck without necessarily knowing the notes (other than the root) and then tie the scales to chord progressions.the first book focus's on the pentantonic scales. my guess is this is how many great rock and blues guys initially approached playing (without having the book). it's like adding a set of wrenches to the tool box, not everything you need but a step along if you work at it.
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