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Someone on Flatpick-L posted a link to these photos of a tour of the Martin factory. Is it just me, or does this have much more of an assembly line feel than the Collings factory? I especially felt that way about hundreds of necks being cut at once, and stacks of sides and backs that seem to be bent/cut in mass quantities instead of from matched sets for each guitar.


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Yikes! Henry Ford would be proud of some of those shots.


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I would think they would have to run it more like an assembly line to get the production numbers they put out.
I think Martin does something like 60,000 guitars per year. That HAS to be assembly line.
No way you can hand shape necks etc. and produce anywhere near those numbers.


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Apples and Oranges.

Can't compare the two. Business plans/objectives completely different.

Martin and Taylor and Gibson, yes.

Factory and boutique small shop, no.

What's amazing, and a compliment to Martin, is the amount of wonderful guitars that do come out of that assembly line process.

I played a new Martin OM just the other day. Basic model. Nothing fancy. Alive, vibrant, open, resonant, loud. Having owned or played the alphabet of noted solo/boutique builders, I'd put this guitar right up there. Almost calls into question the whole mystique of the advantages of solo/small shop guitars if they're this good off the assembly line.


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Marccd, interesting, since I had the opposite reaction. I own two Collings OMs and a Cruz OM, and I've played a whole lot more OMs. I recently played a new Martin OM-28 Marquis, I went in wanting to like it, but it didn't do anything for me. Could be subjectivity, but I think its something else. Some Martins I've played I really like (loved a Juber model I recently played), others nothing. Could it be the assembly line......But I agree with you; can't compare large companies and small to medium builders.


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For a Factory that produce over 100,000. I am actually quite impressed by the way they still hand shave the scallop braces and install the abalone inlays by hand.

Can't a CNC perform those jobs as well? It seems quite time consuming and ineffiicent to me for a factory assembly line. Can't imagine they have to had shave scallop braces for over 50,000 per year.


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Tom F:

The LJ Martin you played, and enjoyed, is the same as the OM I played, and enjoyed. That is, we experienced guitars, products, made on the assembly line, the impersonal, mechanical, factory floor that still worked as a guitar, that still connected with us, us who have played hand made, personally created, designed, attended to, and cared for instruments. A guitar that works, works! Regardless of who made it and how they made it. I know of players/collectors who've spent years and many dollars playing, commissioning, and owning the most exotic hand made solo builder guitars, and they now are returning to the small shops for a level of "consistancy" that find lacking in the exotic guitars. So, good guitars are everywhere, and there's something for everyone.


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Marccd, very well said, and I could not agree with you more. Great guitars, from whatever company, should be celebrated, and we are indeed in a "Golden Era" Wink. BTW, I've got "Guitarist" by Laurence Juber turned up on the stereo; LJ's playing is simply mindboggling. Now, if I could just get my hands on a Sobell OM......


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One of the things that really struck me as odd was that the one step that seems to be absolutely 100% manual at Collings is automated at Martin. I'd really like to see that buffing robot at work!


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Tom F:

LJ is always on my CD turntable. Wonderful player, melodic, percussive, inventive, traditional, he can do it all.


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IMO Martin has improved their focus on quality sound with their Custom Shop, GE, and Marquis models. IMO these instruments have to be seeing a more hands on approah than their assembly line counterparts. I have owned 1 D18GE and a very nice D18CW that were very light,well built,great sounding guitars. I also own a rosewood/adi top HD28 that says only Custom on the neck block. It is a forward X design and the scalloping you see with a mirror is very well done. This too is a very light guitar with a killer rosewood tone. Maybe someone who has done a Martin Tour can let us know if they were able to see these models being assembled.
 
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Nice tour!
 
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